Windows XP is a pain in the /\R$3!!!

**esmerelda** · Oct 29th, 2002, 07:42 PM

Have you ever had a PC reboot on you in the middle of an important backup? Well I have, and I'll tell you this, it's really starting to (CENSORED) me off...

Can anyone translate this MicroCrap jargon for me please?

Code:

BCCode : 1000008e     BCP1 : C0000005     BCP2 : F953376D     BCP3 : F4874B08
BCP4 : 00000000     OSVer : 5_1_2600     SP : 0_0     Product : 256_1

Ok, now I'm REALLY mad! Halfway through posting this bloody post, it decides to restart again... This is the first time I've had this problem, and I hate Bill Gates.

"We are Microsoft of Borg. You will be assimissimissimissimiss.... The system has recovered from a fatal error, would you like to report this error to Microsoft?"

I hate Bill Gates. C'mon people, let's say it together! I HATE BILL GATES! I'm shutting my PC down now and will continue to post using my lovely friend here, My Sun Microsystems UltraSparc 2 Creator... God that felt good typing that...

**Jethro** · Oct 29th, 2002, 10:33 PM

Might l suggest installed MS Win 2k Pro SP2 .... MS's best ever os in my opinion

**mendhak** · Oct 30th, 2002, 12:33 AM

This link will interest you

http://hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/779/

Citing mainly overheated CPUs and incompatible USBs

Do tell me if it helped or not.

**esmerelda** · Oct 30th, 2002, 10:29 AM

I've got 7 fans and about 10 heatsinks stuck to various things *g* in my PC, there's no way it'll ever overheat... Although I could use another fan... *is paranoid* And I've never had a prollem with the USB, it just decided to reboot... I have a strange feeling it's going to do it again...

**DiGiTaIErRoR** · Oct 30th, 2002, 10:35 AM

Do you have a hardware monitor for your CPU?

**prog_tom** · Oct 30th, 2002, 10:58 AM

I prefer Windows 2000 Professional.

**JoshT** · Oct 30th, 2002, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by esmerelda
I've got 7 fans and about 10 heatsinks stuck to various things *g* in my PC, there's no way it'll ever overheat... Although I could use another fan... *is paranoid* And I've never had a prollem with the USB, it just decided to reboot... I have a strange feeling it's going to do it again...

But is everything arranged for optimum airflow?

**esmerelda** · Oct 30th, 2002, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by JoshT
But is everything arranged for optimum airflow?

If you mean, is there an in hole and an out hole, and do all the fans point the same way, then yes. I've also got the air con on, and it's about 10 degrees celcius in here... *shivers* I spose I can turn it up a little...

**DiGiTaIErRoR** · Oct 30th, 2002, 11:26 AM

You feel like a duck with a hammer?

**mendhak** · Oct 30th, 2002, 01:39 PM

And without pants?

**esmerelda** · Oct 30th, 2002, 02:17 PM

Yes, i feel like an exposed animal with no other option than to break something... And the glasses are pretty accurate too... :P

**marnitzg** · Oct 30th, 2002, 02:50 PM

Any chance you're running an AMD?

**rinoaheartilly** · Oct 30th, 2002, 02:56 PM

Have you installed the service pack? I used to have that problem with my laptop, but since I've installed the service pack, it's been fine

**DiGiTaIErRoR** · Oct 31st, 2002, 08:26 AM

That's what you get for using XP.

**Sheppe** · Nov 1st, 2002, 03:37 PM

It sounds more like hardware problems than OS problems to me. Have you tested your RAM, run Scandisk, checked for Virii, etc.?

**marnitzg** · Nov 2nd, 2002, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by Sheppe
It sounds more like hardware problems than OS problems to me. Have you tested your RAM, run Scandisk, checked for Virii, etc.?

Have to agree with Sheppe. I've got 2 machines running XP for +- 5 months without a reboot.

**esmerelda** · Nov 2nd, 2002, 09:05 AM

I get the same problem whe I plug my camera in... And I've run several complete scandisks, windows and dos both with surface check thing, but it sounds like it hates my computer, I've only got a 433Mhz Celeron, so that might be why...

**VisionIT** · Dec 1st, 2002, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by esmerelda
Can anyone translate this MicroCrap jargon for me please?

Code:

BCCode : 1000008e BCP1 : C0000005 BCP2 : F953376D BCP3 : F4874B08 BCP4 : 00000000 OSVer : 5_1_2600 SP : 0_0 Product : 256_1

That 'microcrap' basically translates to a possible stack fault in the hex address printed above. All aspects of any program go onto what is called a stack. Like so...

| ITEM 5 |
| ITEM 4 |
| ITEM 3 |
| ITEM 2 |
| ITEM 1 |
----------

Now....

The only way item 1 (or segment 0) can be removed (pop) from the data stack is to remove all the items above.. which is where a segment/stack error can occur. It's commonly caused by bad coding from the vendor... not Microsoft (so don't hate Bill!)

When a segment error occurs, it's trying to pull an item from the stack which doesn't exist or cannot be accessed. It's very tricky to understand, so you really need to be a base developer to understand it. lol

The two common phrases are "Pop" & "Push" a data segment. They work in the same way as an array would in Pascal or VB.

As i have posted previously... the error screen you are refering to... is a default screen in WinXP, which tells the user EXACTLY what has crashed and why (if you understand the microcrap). It's NOT windows crashing !!!! Again... It's NOT windows crashing !!!!

The most common cause of the stack segment error, is basically an item has been pulled from the stack (removed) and then is reffered to l8er in the program. The only way to re-access that data segment, is to PUSH (put) that stack name back on.

IE.

ITEM 1 'Program then removes this'
mov item1 'ERROR...it doesn't exist anymore?????'
PUSH ITEM 1 'And now it's back, yeehee'

Sorry if this is a bit blinding, but you asked ! lol
If you are still strugling, feel free to gimmie a call.

Hope that helps u, although i cannot think how

Regards,

Paul.

**Guv** · Dec 9th, 2002, 01:38 AM

From everything I have heard, XP is a reliable and stable OS.

I am staying with Windows 98SE because I have two systems with 70 or more applications installed on each. 98SE has never given me any trouble and it would be a real pain to reinstall all the applications software.

I have helped some beginners who have XP systems, and it seems just different enough to be agravating. They buried some features to protect the innocent. I had trouble finding Windows explorer and some of the system tools. Did MS think the dummy books were such a good idea that they made an OS for dummies?

BTW: Does XP still give you a hard time if you modify your hardware, making it think it is on a different system?

**scr0p** · Dec 13th, 2002, 09:58 AM

For anything but games, I would say XP is the best. What I did was I wiped out my register. 0 problems from then on.

I don't know why or how, but I used to get a blue screen (or restart in your case) every 10 minutes, but once I booted and my registery was corrupt, I replaced it with the one from the XP CD and I was about to format to reinstall XP but I noticed I had no problems from then on. My username is "TEMP" though, but I can still access the stuff that were on my original username.

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